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  • http://www.famigogames.com Matt


    Great post and timely advice, especially since we should always be hiring.

    Have you had any luck with specific job boards? 37 Signals, Crunchboard, Startuply, etc? Are they worth the price of posting?


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    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      I don’t have much experience with those particular job boards. I think it will depend on what position you’re hiring for and whether recruiters have gotten control of the board.

      Some of them have a money-back guarantee or are cheap, so it’s worth trying at least once.

      This would be a good question for http://answers.onstartups.com — people there might know.

  • Anonymous

    Good people also don’t have time to take tests, or really don’t care. Every job I’ve applied for I get an offer 90% of the time. I also get recruiters, HR reps, and the CEO’s themselves emailing me 5-7 times a month. If anyone asks me to take a “personality” test, or a some form of radio-element question form, I hang up.

    I find tests to be lame and a waste of my time, if you want to know if I can write then ask me up front for a piece of writing rather than trying to hide it with irritating questions about if I’ve failed at anything in life. If you want to learn about my personality and goals in life, lets have a coffee or meet me in person.

    At the end of the day, having all these filters and questionnaires will deter the “good” people.

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      Unfortunately, we don’t have time to take everyone out to coffee.

      You might be confusing general recruiting with hiring from your own network.

      Of course when you already know the person is good because the reference came from someone you trust, you wouldn’t do these things! It’s insulting and weird.

      But if you’re trying to get through 100s of resumes, and when you know nothing about each person, you don’t have a choice.

      Finally, you are of course correct that some good people — like you I suppose — will be filtered out. But it doesn’t matter if you’re filtered out, because it doesn’t hurt your business to not hire a good person, it only hurts if you do hire a bad person.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you on some points, but lets think of it from the a “good” person’s perspective. In fact, let’s do it from the “really really good” person’s perspective. The really really good person is interviewing with multiple companies, and unless one company is unique he’s not going to bother doing all these tests, or putting more effort than needed. It all depends on what you want, good or really really good?

        Last month I’ve interviewed with 8 companies. The companies that had an old school corporate appeal, gray cubicles, florescent lights, performance tests, personality tests, men in suites, I dropped instantly from my short list.

        Eventually I decided to start my own business, and instead of doing work for one company, I now do work for multiple companies, in my own nicely designed zen office, that attracts like minded people. But to get back on point, if you want good people, sure, a questionnaire may filter out some, but if you want really really good people, industry leaders, then a questionnaire may not be worth their time.

        • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

          Agreed. Although it sounds like you’re built to be an entrepreneur and not an employee at all, no?

          Also, if you’re hiring an “industry leader,” then it’s not an anonymous resume submission, so this again wouldn’t apply.

        • Donald

          if someone do not have time/interest in answering some brief questions (e.g. the email questions above, i am not talking about a 30 min questionaire), that person cannot be particular interested in working at the company to start with (e.g. just looking for “any” job), so is probably not the right person anyway.

          Keep in mind that this hiring processes is about getting someone for a startup company, hence different rules applies as for the startup process for, lets say IBM.

        • http://www.ricardodsanchez.com Ricardo


          I disagree with you by the single fact that you are one of those people who usually disagree with a blog but never shows their identity.

          The example test above is something that any “good” person will be willing to do if they are interested in the company. This is a good idea, unless of course the company hiring “already” know that this candidate is a good person – then the test is not needed at all.
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  • http://www.eco-diamond.com Jason

    Nice article. Your screening process sounds like a good way to separate serious candidates from those just trying to land an easy “job”, rather than make an active contribution to a start-up company. Thanks for the ideas!

    • http://www.eco-diamond.com Jason

      “Every job I’ve applied for I get an offer 90% of the time.”

      Sorry can’t resist:

      “60% of the time, it works every time.” – Anchorman

  • http://www.RegScheepers.com Reg

    Great post. Really helpful to me specifically because I haven’t hired anyone yet but am needing to do so soon.

    I need a P.A. too. I’m thinking of hiring a really sexy girl cause I’m unmarried, so why not kill two birds with one stone right? lol

    • http://www.RegScheepers.com Reg

      By the way, have you hired a P.A. and does that follow the same guidelines as mentioned above?
      .-= Reg’s latest blog post: Guarding Your Frame of Reference =-.

      • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

        I have hired a PA of sorts, and have had great luck outsourcing that to other small startups. That way you get a super-efficient, smart, entrepreneur-type person who is actually worth the $30/hour because they can do 5x the activity with 100x the quality than a $12/hour full-time person.

  • DForce

    Your article is good. However, there are a few points with which I disaggree:

    1. Hiring employees HELPS you run a lifestyle company. Without employees (that is, without delegating) you will have to run long, long, long hours – which will destroy your lifestyle.

    So, I wouldn’t conceive a lifestyle company without employees?

    2. Having to work 10 hours a day a sign you are NOT delegating properly. You should look into it – what forces you to work 10 hours a day?

    I am currently running a lifestyle company with 1 associate and 2 employees. The employees work 8 hours a day, period.

    I and my associate work 8 hours a day, 3 days a week, and I personally make 170 K USD per year – a figure which is ever increasing.

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      Great stuff, thanks for the counter-point.

      I think it might depend on what you mean by “lifestyle.” For what you describe, that’s great. I meant “Small business with less than $200k/year total revenue,” in which case having employees requires you to make a lot more revenue to cover costs.

      Remember, this is full-time employees, not contractors. Contractors are a completely different story.

      But I agree I should have been more clear, especially since I also agree my conception of “lifestyle” is not necessarily a good general definition!

      Finally, on the 10 hours/day, I think you’re right a lot of the time, but sometimes running a small business does just take a lot of time.

  • Georges

    Good tips. FWIW, Ruby is an interpreted language so it’s unlikly that a compiler will be involved, more like a run-time interpretor :p

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    Here are some tips that helped me land the job of my dreams:

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  • http://www.redcort.com/timeclock/ Keith DeLong

    Your essay questions when using CraigsList is spot on. We ran a traditional employment ad on Craigslist this past spring when we started looking to fill a Customer Service position at our software company. I was deluged with hundreds of unqualified applicants. Realizing we needed to screen applicants, I placed another employment ad that included a clear ‘how to apply’ format with 6 questions. It also clearly stated that we would only accept applications that followed the required (rather simple) format.

    Applicants for the position dropped from hundreds to dozens. Even at that, more than half failed to follow the simple application requirements. The ad proved to be a great filter that saved us a ton of time and introduced us to several really interesting candidates.

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      Brilliant way of going about things, Keith. I like the way you think. I definitely will keep this trick in mind for future use when looking for candidates, myself. LOL!!!

  • http://www.mishymash.com Michelle

    Great post! Being a start-up junkie, it really resonates.

    Interested to hear your thoughts about tips for recruiting “quality” interns? (ie. people who often don’t have any relevant work experience).

  • http://www.genotrope.com tom summit

    Your advice on hiring recruiters is not very good. Too general to be useful. Sure, recruiting does not have a stellar rep and it is easy to pan the industry as a whole, but there are useless startup pundits as well.
    yes, I am a recruiter, so grain of salt.

    The worst comment is about hiring a recruiter that works on an hourly basis. Would the best 10x quality hacker work on an hourly basis? No they would not. Neither will the great recruiters.
    Remember, on a contingency basis, you don’t have to hire from a recruiter, you just have to beat their best candidate. It is all about candidate flow, and using all resources available is not a bad way to go. Like anything else, get referred to the great recruiter through your network.

    I know of many start ups that hired the majority of their core team from recruiters are are successful because of it.
    If your comment was specifically targeted to hiring a co-founder, then I agree, that will be best done, “organically” through your personal networks.

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      In my opinion, employee #1 is essentially a co-founder. No, not in spirit, and there are real differences, etc.. But from a hiring point of view, yes.

      Note the title of this article. I’m not saying that employees #2-100 are the same! Employee #1 is special, as you say in your final paragraph.

      To answer your question about a 10x quality hacker working on an hourly basis — Yes of course they do! Of course there are expensive consultants that completely kick ass and who don’t want to work full-time at a company!

      In fact, I routinely use an hourly recruiter, which demonstrates (1) I don’t hate recruiters, and (2) you’ve just insulted a great recruiter!

      • http://www.genotrope.com tom summit

        Sorry, didn’t clearly make my point. I was just trying to say that someone that is really good at what they do, will not work for less than their market rate. So if you are saying you pay the 10x dev 10 times more than the avg dev, then ok.

        I am not clear how, paying someone whether they are successful or not is better alignment of incentive than paying for performance. It seems that the incentive is to prolong the search when paid by the hour.

        I like the way you turn it around and say that I am insulting your hourly recruiter, when you pretty much say that it is better to self inflict pain than hire a recruiter. ;-)

  • http://www.yigdigs.com Andy Salo

    Hi Jason,
    You seem to be catching a little more flak for your post than usual! I agreed with you until your last comment response. (you had me at hello, and lost me at co-founder…)

    1) To me, either this person is either a co-founder or not a co-founder.

    2) After founders, I don’t think I would distinguish much between employee 1-10. Those first few are all really, really important. IMO employee number 4 is just as special as employee number 1 in most situations because the team is so small and everyone needs to wear many hats. Not just employee #1.

    3) After approximately 10, I agree the process would be treated a little differently.

    I agree about not using a recruiter for the first few. No need to cater to the recruiters in the audience. :)

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      I agree with the assertion that #2-10 is the same as #1 from a hiring point of view. It’s easier to recover from a bad hire when it’s #9, but you’re right that the process, mindset, and importance isn’t different.

      I’m not catering to recruiters. I really do use an hourly-basis recruiter here in Austin.

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  • http://thedreaminaction.com Ryan Graves

    Really solid man. Sorry it took me so long to read this!

    Can’t wait to be in a position to use this.

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  • http://qapacity.com Ina

    An enjoyable and useful read, as usual, Jason:)

    I don’t know about the mini-essays, though. Many people are great in person and they can open up in a relaxed conversation, but when you make them write an essay you send them back to school, back to their traumas: ) And many of them, out of what I call “the fear of the essay” start writing this things that have nothing to do with what you asked from them in the firstplace.

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      Point taken! Perhaps that point needs to be coupled with the assumption that “everyone at the company will have to write to people outside the company.”

      If that’s true, and the person is scared of a few paragraphs, than I would still assert that’s a problem. But if that assumption is false, I see just what you mean.

      • http://qapacity.com Ina

        I see what you mean and I agree that people should be able to write:) It’s just the type of writing, the style it requires and the position the writer puts him(her)self into while writing a short essay that I don’t trust for a job interview.

        But that’s just me:)

      • http://twitter.com/tim_ph Tim Pham

        Or offer them another way to express themselves, like a pseudo-code as an answer to your question.

        I used to write short, to-the-point sentences. Reading a lots of half-page paragraphs about nothing in newspaper drives me nut.

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  • http://socialfabric.co.uk neil noakes

    enjoyed the post. thought you’d enjoy this example of a job ad found on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28554048@N04/2860889931/sizes/o//

    • http://www.ioanalazarov.com Ioana

      What a great way to advertise a job! I was actually cracking up reading it. Thanks for sharing! :0)

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  • http://www.ZukoLabs.com Yuri Kostun

    Hi Jason!

    I’m a Recruiter so I should get it out there! An hourly recruiter has as much chance of drawing out their time as a retained recruiter does of looking at their watch while you’re talking – a good one. I’m glad you’ve found a great contract resource since there are great contractors in recruiting just like in most other things these days. I was listening to the podcast on your site from August – good stuff! I think there are recruiters out there, just like coder/entrepreneurs, who want to do the right thing and are excited to be doing their jobs. I call it “good business equals good business” in my head! I guess you’re writing about retained firms. I’m not much on retained searches, but as a contingency recruiter I think building teams is where the fun can be had! Sure, it’s an awesome responsibility to help hire the #2. Successful recruiters understand there is a trust between ourselves and our clients. Pragmatically, we also have the incentive that company growth should grow our own business. It’s in our own self interest to get the hire correct!

    Thanks for the thread and articles mentioned. Definitely something I’ll be checking out!


    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason

      I agree that an hourly agent can draw out hours, just as fixed-price tries to reduce them. However the former is controllable — you can just stop if you don’t like what’s happening. Of course the latter is controllable too — you can just stop and you don’t owe a dime — but since in either case you can stop if you don’t like what’s happening, the incentives of the former still seem better. But good point.

      Also I completely agree that there are great recruiters of all types and that there are positive incentives to place the right person so you get the business automatically the next time around (plus referrals).

      However, the same is true for lots of similar professions — real estate agents for example, both commercial and residential, both buyer-side and seller-side — and the biases there are well documented. I admit I’ve also had some bad experiences.

      Having said that, my feeling is that with small-time recruiters you’re probably in good hands as you say, whereas with big “head hunter agencies” I do stand firm that those are a rip-off for startups — I’ve experienced that myself on both sides of the transaction and other founders have said the same unanimously.

      So maybe the bottom line is the same as with most anything — there’s a lot of posers out there, but if you hook up with the right person it’s insanely valuable. Hopefully anyone reading this will recognize that you (and the other recruiters posting here) are probably in the “valuable” category just by virtue of your thoughtfulness!

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  • Andy Hairgrove

    Good writers are among the nation’s scarcest resources, so I second your point about requiring candidates to write. Don’t fall for a well written cover letter. For all you know, they have a great editor for a spouse. Or, it may have been well written but they labored over it for a week. You need people that can communicate effectively, professionally, and quickly. 

    Things to look for when evaluating someone’s writing ability: creativity, organization, and a strong finish. All three of  which are also critical attributes of the perfect start up employee. 

  • http://twitter.com/teds027 Ted Sindzinski

    Really really good comments here especially around communication. Talented people are often so far behind the scenes that they don’t get pushed on interactions… won’t fly on a small team or as hire #1.

    I’d also reiterate the importance of finding transparency from both sides. Whether I’ve hired for a small team or a big one, there’s always been realities to the particular culture that someone has fit with — will they walk in at 9 or noon, do they really turn their cellphone off on vacation, are you going to insist on business casual or casual casual.

    Sometimes you have to pass up on a great candidate because they won’t survive in your work style and of course the opposite is even more true.

    If you can move past the sales pitch and get the person to talk about what they do and what they want, you’ve got a much stronger chance of finding a match. After all, everyone has their own approach — you may not want a “lifer” over a shorter-term “doer” right now. Resumes are built to spin us all back to a medium, the big trick is to get to the underlying personality and skillset out of those who are qualified to see who is exceptional for your role.

  • Anonymous

    All good points. As an addendum, Robert Sutton’s blog (http://bobsutton.typepad.com/) and most of his books are a gold mine, especially the chapters in “Weird Ideas That Work: 11 1/2 Practices for Promoting, Managing, and Sustaining Innovation” that cover hiring and constantly learning about your market and competitors via candidates applying for a role with your startup/ company.

  • Hartbro155

    great article! but one minor usage mistake:

    *pair them down* should be “pare them down”


    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason Cohen

      Thanks! Fixed.

  • bs

    what a garbage.  “startup-minded” means you can work long hours on a below market salary so the founders have a chance get getting rich.  most employee stock options don’t yield crap unless you’re the next Google or Facebook.  stop romanticizing “startup life” – it’s the biggest scam in the Silicon Valley.  If you truly want to hire a super star, you will pay the fair price.

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason Cohen

      Who said anything about not paying a fair rate?

      Jason Cohen

  • http://www.globalfibernet.com Kevin @globalfibernet

    Jason, great insight. My 2 bits on the essay or no essay question {as well as some of the others raised here} are; it depends. As hire number 1, everything depends on the fit as well as the goal. I’ve normally been a part of a small team. Recently I was brought on in a more ‘corporate’ level. Fit moves up the priority list as size shrinks. As a hire number one, you need to know that you can get along with this person. If you want to read an essay, then have them write an essay. If they shirk at this, they’re probably not going to be a good fit for you. Personally, having hired on small teams, I find being sure to devote at least an hour to the interview helps a great deal in determining ‘fit’.

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    Pretty slick, Jason – masquerading a help wanted ad as a blog post.  Nice! 

    Good content as always.  Thanks

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  • Nicole C

    Well said! We struggled to find the right person and agree that resumes are pretty much useless. We ended up using a company called creammetrics.com to filter people for us.  Best investment we’ve made in awhile. 

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  • Guest

    Well, pushing for “friends” efficiently eliminates any diversity, women, minorities and older workers from startups. It takes quite a bit of intelligence to be friends and co-workers with somebody who’s different. If the first hires don’t happen to be mature and emotionally intelligent (nobody requires them to be), with the next hires it’s going to be a replication of “hire-friend-of-a-friend-white-male-3-years-from-graduation-or-otherwise-similar-to-me” culture. Of course, there are always exceptions but given 2 candidates,  the one who’s a “club” fit would always have much better chances. Using “she” in the article sound more like a joke. 

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  • Rod2012

    I just ran into this article and its great. I have been giving a lot of thought about hiring my 1st employee and its been diificult to make a decision because it involves a different level of commitment and a lot more responsibility.

    One thing that I am struggling with is that I am worried that there is always that chance that I will hire someone, spen time money and resoucrces on getting this person up to speed and then have them quit to go work for someone else. I,
    M in the technology business and there is plenty of jobs…. So how would I make sure that I can really retain my first employee? I am too small of a business to even offer a decent package of benefits… Just don’t know, thanks for any advice

    • http://blog.asmartbear.com Jason Cohen

      That problem never goes away.  If you have a fantastic, capable employee, they will ALWAYS have LOTS of options, regardless of the economy or anything else.

      You need to provide an environment where they’ll be fulfilled, the definition of which depends on the person.  Startups have stuff like: Excitement, learning, team, every day is different, flex hours, your work actually matters, risky, fun, highs and lows, and so forth.

      If this person doesn’t want that, they shouldn’t be at any startup.

      If they do want that, my experience is that unless it’s a true culture mismatch (which happens), they’re not looking to jump ship at the nearest port.  They didn’t take on all this risk and pour themselves into this project because they’re disloyal.

      That’s not to say they won’t leave.  Again, if they’re awesome, they’ll always have lots of opportunities. But that’s just another risk you take, one of many, and one of the hardest.

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    Thanks for all your advice on hiring and what kind of people to hire. But what about tracking their performances? I would recommend Replicon timekeeping software for tracking employees time and performances.

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    I really enjoyed this article and am in the middle of the hiring tempest. I have looked at traditional hiring methods and they never gel with the way i like to look at people.
    One thing i like to ask new potential hires is, to tell me what their biggest failure has been in life. I find that people who know their weaknesses as well or better than their strengths are the kind of folks that you want to hire. This question not only helps you find people who are honest about themselves but ones that are not afraid to admit when they are wrong or have screwed up. Everyone gets good at selling their strengths, but it is hard to admit your failures.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benchewSG Ben Chew

    Good article! Startup Hiring is never easy. http://www.startupjobs.asia

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  • Abed Nadier

    I was talking to my boss about this the other day actually. He started his business and just hired within his family at first. After his business started to expand, he had to decide whether to start hiring employees and how to do so. I wonder if he researched the best way to hire before he started out. It seems like a really intense process for a first time business owner.

    Abed Nadier | http://www.rdselectric.com/industrial-electric.php

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